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^^(A)^^WAR · Junior Member Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 3

i just want to take this opportunity to tell you something about this plaet wide, supposed crisis of the climate. One thing i would like to say is I have a good friend who is a meteorology and climatology student and has his seal of approval fromt he national weather aliance. He knows his information. I brought the subject up to him and he studied it and here is what he told me his conclusion was. Man causes only like 5-9% of the climte change. The rest is all natural.

I think its funny when one of the top personalities at the weather channel threatens to have a meteorologists certification removed if they do not think global warming is anything less than all man caused and not just theory.

One other person that comes to mind is al gore. He rides in big motor coaches, jet airplanes, and has a giant estate using massive amounts of power. He should follow suit and drop all that luxury power waste. He claimed that it is not a political issue, but he got a movie in the theatres and made the headlines and drew many people to several locations in mass to watch a concert series. Wait, all those people drove in vehicles to get there and bought tickets, and made tons of trash on the earth after. That doesnt make any sense does it??????

The fact is, the sun is a GIANT out of control nuclear reaction that is held there by God. We are not going to burn up, lets all relax. Be carefull who you listen to and what you read and the motives behind it all. That is all i have. Thanks for your time. God bless you all, and keep rockin!!!!!

from the southeastern united states of america

rastaban · Junior Member Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 1

The point of this is that climate change is occurring. It is not about placing blame, it is about deciding what we can do to decrease the changes that will affect us. If we are responsible for 5% (lower end of your friends estimate), then we can change 5%.

As for Al Gore, well, there is something to be said for him creating talk on the subject...I mean...you're aware of what it is...were you aware of it 10 years ago? Probably not. He also drives hybrid ars and is the epitome of what people should be doing as it relates to climate change.

And as for the sun, yeah...it should be there for another 6 million years or so, so I think we're pretty safe there...but if we don't have an ozone layer to protect the suns harmful uv rays, where will we be then? We are already constantly told to wear sunscreen to protect against sunburns on a daily basis....20 years from now what will we be doing?

Not to be alarmist or anything, but it is important to be aware of the world around you and how things are changing. It is not about placing blame, but it is about acknowledging change is happening...whether it is natural or not. I am a skeptic with climate change, and I agree with your friend about the probability of human influences on climate change being small. Did your friend show you why that is the case? If one looks at the past climate shift events, they are similar to those happening now, but they occur on a larger time scale than those occurring at the present.

Anyways...my point is....it's not about placing blame, it's about acknowledging something is happening and we need to do what we can to minimize the effects of that change on us now otherwise we're screwed.

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^^(A)^^WAR · Junior Member Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 3

thanks for the reply, i was just exercising my constitutional freedoms in that post.

I would like to know what everyone thinks of the leader of iran coming over to new york. He is a tyrant who buries people alive to their shoulders and then stones them. He is a promoter of terrorisim and ha, he wanted to lay a wreath at ground zero, and we LET him. WHY. I also remind you that he says repeatedly that he wants to wipe out Israel and then the west!!!! And we let him into our biggest city and as a speaker at a college? Everyone should know about this person. Im sure hilary clinton and all the other socialist communist wanna be's see nothing wrong with him.

And one more point, there is just NO reasoning with an evil dictator like him. And lets get the USELESS united nations packed up and off our soil!!!

lebrown113 · Member Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 94 Location: Houston, TX

Michael Crichton has some interesting things to say on the subject of global warming.

Aliens cause global warming

Testimony before the United States Senate

The Case for Skepticism on Global Warming

And other things...

http://www.michaelcrichton.com/speeches.html
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tnbot · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: the climate)))))

tngu77 · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject:

An amalgam of websites into one!!! (regarding the climate and global warming)...great resource...

http://schnittshow.970wfla.com/globalwarming.html

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tngu77 · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: the climate)))))

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Khaotic · Junior Member Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 2

I just wrote a mid-term paper on this very subject, so I figure I'll jump in too.

Anyway, the graph that tnbot presents of CO2 levels is taken from measurements of the CO2 trapped in individual layers of glaciers. The problem with this is that glaciers cannot provide an accurate measure of CO2 because of liquid water flowing inside of them. This changes the composition of the trapped bubbles to be beyond any notion of accuracy.

As for acknowledging that climate change is occurring, you can't really do that either. The models that show temperature increases are not sophisticated enough to take natural cooling mechanisms, most notably clouds, into consideration yet are passed off as accurate with no note of this weakness.

Sources:
http://www.warwickhughes.com/icecore/

http://ff.org/centers/csspp/pdf/20060331_issues.pdf

Husper · Member Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 61

I recommend the documentary 'The Great Global Warming Swindle'. It gives a very interesting perspective on everything, and casts doubt on the role of CO2 in changing the atmosphere.

This user on Youtube seems to have all the parts of it posted:
http://uk.youtube.com/user/CravingGod

bpiercerox · Junior Member Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Posts: 10

im from Los Angeles and the weather here recently has been kinda weird
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musiclovr89 · Short Bus Kid (Banned) Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 21

global warming at its best. hahaha.